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		By: Ask A [Salon] Manager &#8211; This Ugly Beauty Business		</title>
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		By: Tina Alberino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Alberino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2020 13:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-36561&quot;&gt;Val&lt;/a&gt;.

You are being misclassified. Nothing about your arrangement indicates that you are truly self-employed. &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/04/what-do-i-say-how-to-approach-your-owner-to-discuss-fair-labor-and-wage-practices.html&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s an article about how to open up that discussion with the salon owner.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-36561">Val</a>.</p>
<p>You are being misclassified. Nothing about your arrangement indicates that you are truly self-employed. <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/04/what-do-i-say-how-to-approach-your-owner-to-discuss-fair-labor-and-wage-practices.html">Here&#8217;s an article about how to open up that discussion with the salon owner.</a></p>
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		By: Val		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Val]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 01:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-693&quot;&gt;Tina Alberino&lt;/a&gt;.

I know this is such a late comment but I am just now finding this thread because I am dying for answers. 

Our salon is commission. We are told we have to work a certain amount of hours, adhere to a dress code, blah blah. But when it’s tax time our owner tells us that we are independent contractors and technically self employed. We are not paid for meetings. Our salon is a “sliding commission.” 
50% $1000 &#038; under
55% $1000.01 - $1550 
60% $1550.01 - 2250

However, the salon also takes a set amount off the top of each service. Takes our full toner charge, our full PPE charge and a percent of a color charge as well. I added up my check last week and did the math. I am making 46%. Less than the starting stated amount in our contract. How do I go about addressing this? Am I being misclassified?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-693">Tina Alberino</a>.</p>
<p>I know this is such a late comment but I am just now finding this thread because I am dying for answers. </p>
<p>Our salon is commission. We are told we have to work a certain amount of hours, adhere to a dress code, blah blah. But when it’s tax time our owner tells us that we are independent contractors and technically self employed. We are not paid for meetings. Our salon is a “sliding commission.”<br />
50% $1000 &amp; under<br />
55% $1000.01 &#8211; $1550<br />
60% $1550.01 &#8211; 2250</p>
<p>However, the salon also takes a set amount off the top of each service. Takes our full toner charge, our full PPE charge and a percent of a color charge as well. I added up my check last week and did the math. I am making 46%. Less than the starting stated amount in our contract. How do I go about addressing this? Am I being misclassified?</p>
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		By: Tina Alberino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Alberino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2020 17:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-35965&quot;&gt;Kim&lt;/a&gt;.

I would speak with a Enrolled Agent. If you&#039;re &quot;being paid&quot; routinely by the same salon owner you&#039;re not an independent contractor at all and shouldn&#039;t be receiving a 1099. &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/05/the-20-factor-irs-test-why-independent.html&quot;&gt;Read this post&lt;/a&gt; for more information on that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-35965">Kim</a>.</p>
<p>I would speak with a Enrolled Agent. If you&#8217;re &#8220;being paid&#8221; routinely by the same salon owner you&#8217;re not an independent contractor at all and shouldn&#8217;t be receiving a 1099. <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/05/the-20-factor-irs-test-why-independent.html">Read this post</a> for more information on that.</p>
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		By: Kim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2020 14:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is this right??
As of 2019 we were given a 1099. We are paid commission. Nothing has changed we are still being paid commission and paying a lot of taxes but we have nothing to write off. All of our products and color are still paid for. What I was wondering can I write off the remaining commission as a tax write off , since we have no booth rental?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this right??<br />
As of 2019 we were given a 1099. We are paid commission. Nothing has changed we are still being paid commission and paying a lot of taxes but we have nothing to write off. All of our products and color are still paid for. What I was wondering can I write off the remaining commission as a tax write off , since we have no booth rental?</p>
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		By: Tina Alberino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Alberino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2020 14:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-34914&quot;&gt;Melissa&lt;/a&gt;.

Whether they&#039;ve been doing it &quot;for years&quot; or whether it&#039;s &quot;in the contract&quot; isn&#039;t at all relevant. Doing an unlawful thing for a long time and putting it into a contract doesn&#039;t suddenly make it legal. Your attorney will likely want to speak with your coworkers to determine whether it&#039;s worth it for you all to go in together (or separately at the same time) against your employer. 

They can&#039;t continue to commit theft just because you consent to it. Whether or not you agree to it, it&#039;s still illegal. If you were to take them to court a second time, you&#039;d win again--only this time, they&#039;d lose a whole lot more since you&#039;d have a documented history of wage theft and an out-of-court settlement proving they knew better (which will make their future theft of your wages &quot;willful,&quot; resulting in much bigger consequences).

Don&#039;t tolerate this shit. Employers like this get away with literally stealing from their employees unless professionals force them to stop. Labor rights workers fought really hard for us to have the power to call upon state and federal agencies to support us in these situations, so take advantage of it. I know you want to keep working there, but I would highly recommend against continuing to work for people who think they can steal from their employees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-34914">Melissa</a>.</p>
<p>Whether they&#8217;ve been doing it &#8220;for years&#8221; or whether it&#8217;s &#8220;in the contract&#8221; isn&#8217;t at all relevant. Doing an unlawful thing for a long time and putting it into a contract doesn&#8217;t suddenly make it legal. Your attorney will likely want to speak with your coworkers to determine whether it&#8217;s worth it for you all to go in together (or separately at the same time) against your employer. </p>
<p>They can&#8217;t continue to commit theft just because you consent to it. Whether or not you agree to it, it&#8217;s still illegal. If you were to take them to court a second time, you&#8217;d win again&#8211;only this time, they&#8217;d lose a whole lot more since you&#8217;d have a documented history of wage theft and an out-of-court settlement proving they knew better (which will make their future theft of your wages &#8220;willful,&#8221; resulting in much bigger consequences).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t tolerate this shit. Employers like this get away with literally stealing from their employees unless professionals force them to stop. Labor rights workers fought really hard for us to have the power to call upon state and federal agencies to support us in these situations, so take advantage of it. I know you want to keep working there, but I would highly recommend against continuing to work for people who think they can steal from their employees.</p>
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		By: Melissa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2020 12:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi!  Thanks for all the information that you have made available on this site.  I just found out that my salon has been taking these &quot;service fees&quot; out of my paychecks for the last 4 years.  I was not aware of these until just this year.  We do not get an itemized pay stub in our checks so Ive never really questioned it.  Last paycheck I asked to see the pay stub and there they had a column for the service fees,$240.00 for a two week period.  And I found out that last years total was $5,000.  If it wasn&#039;t for this site I would prob think that was just the way the do business, but because of you I have contacted and lawyer and I&#039;m hoping to have that money paid back to me.
But now I don&#039;t know how to go forward.  They are still telling me these fees have been in place for years and it was in the contract.  And basically they are not changing the fees.  I want to continue working there, but I don&#039;t want to pay the service charge fees.  Can they still keep taking them out?  And what about my other coworkers who are being charged.  Should they be reimbursed also?  How can I get them to stop taking the fees out?  Does my attorney have to handle that also.
The company is basically saying you didn&#039;t know about those fees then so we will pay you what we took out to stay out of court, but you know about those fees now so this is what it is. Can they still do that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  Thanks for all the information that you have made available on this site.  I just found out that my salon has been taking these &#8220;service fees&#8221; out of my paychecks for the last 4 years.  I was not aware of these until just this year.  We do not get an itemized pay stub in our checks so Ive never really questioned it.  Last paycheck I asked to see the pay stub and there they had a column for the service fees,$240.00 for a two week period.  And I found out that last years total was $5,000.  If it wasn&#8217;t for this site I would prob think that was just the way the do business, but because of you I have contacted and lawyer and I&#8217;m hoping to have that money paid back to me.<br />
But now I don&#8217;t know how to go forward.  They are still telling me these fees have been in place for years and it was in the contract.  And basically they are not changing the fees.  I want to continue working there, but I don&#8217;t want to pay the service charge fees.  Can they still keep taking them out?  And what about my other coworkers who are being charged.  Should they be reimbursed also?  How can I get them to stop taking the fees out?  Does my attorney have to handle that also.<br />
The company is basically saying you didn&#8217;t know about those fees then so we will pay you what we took out to stay out of court, but you know about those fees now so this is what it is. Can they still do that?</p>
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		By: Tina Alberino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Alberino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2019 00:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-34189&quot;&gt;Kristal M Kilmer&lt;/a&gt;.

If you&#039;re not being compensated at least the prevailing minimum wage for each hour you work in a pay period, the employer isn&#039;t in compliance with wage and hour laws. &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/06/engaged-to-wait-salon-employees-stop-working-for-free.html&quot;&gt;In America, nobody works for free.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-34189">Kristal M Kilmer</a>.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not being compensated at least the prevailing minimum wage for each hour you work in a pay period, the employer isn&#8217;t in compliance with wage and hour laws. <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/06/engaged-to-wait-salon-employees-stop-working-for-free.html">In America, nobody works for free.</a></p>
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		By: Kristal M Kilmer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kristal M Kilmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2019 16:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi there ~

I work in a commission only salon. Beginning stylist receive 40% and it goes up to 50% . The salon owner requires a set schedule. Some days we work a mandatory 9 am to 8 pm. We are required to clean , mandatory meetings, salon promoting type events.. ect. She does not pay a draw of any kind. I&#039;m also aware that some of our managers are salary and are not compensated over time.  I love my boss but I don&#039;t think this is legal. If I work a 9 to 8 and see no clients i am still required to clean and such and receive $0. Is this legal??]]></description>
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<p>I work in a commission only salon. Beginning stylist receive 40% and it goes up to 50% . The salon owner requires a set schedule. Some days we work a mandatory 9 am to 8 pm. We are required to clean , mandatory meetings, salon promoting type events.. ect. She does not pay a draw of any kind. I&#8217;m also aware that some of our managers are salary and are not compensated over time.  I love my boss but I don&#8217;t think this is legal. If I work a 9 to 8 and see no clients i am still required to clean and such and receive $0. Is this legal??</p>
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		By: Tina Alberino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Alberino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2019 14:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-33073&quot;&gt;Mary Rose&lt;/a&gt;.

I completely agree. I&#039;ve repeatedly told professionals in this industry that if you can&#039;t find legal employment, take a job doing literally anything else until you can. (Or swallow your pride and go work in a corporate salon, I don&#039;t care how &quot;uncool&quot; they are.)

The biggest thing you can do to help is to meet with lawmakers and make them extremely aware of how these practices are hurting tax revenue and creating additional burdens on the system, all for the personal financial gain of these salon owners. Many of these professionals (a majority of whom are women) just want to make a living doing what they love. They shouldn&#039;t have to accept abuse to accomplish that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2014/03/common-misconceptions-laws-that-most-salon-owners-are-unaware-of-or-like-to-pretend-they-arent-aware-of.html#comment-33073">Mary Rose</a>.</p>
<p>I completely agree. I&#8217;ve repeatedly told professionals in this industry that if you can&#8217;t find legal employment, take a job doing literally anything else until you can. (Or swallow your pride and go work in a corporate salon, I don&#8217;t care how &#8220;uncool&#8221; they are.)</p>
<p>The biggest thing you can do to help is to meet with lawmakers and make them extremely aware of how these practices are hurting tax revenue and creating additional burdens on the system, all for the personal financial gain of these salon owners. Many of these professionals (a majority of whom are women) just want to make a living doing what they love. They shouldn&#8217;t have to accept abuse to accomplish that.</p>
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