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		By: Tina Alberino		</title>
		<link>https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/10/how-to-fire-a-salon-employee.html#comment-60851</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Alberino]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/10/how-to-fire-a-salon-employee.html#comment-60815&quot;&gt;Sterling&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, the reason she&#039;s likely upset is that she&#039;s legally self-employed, which means you aren&#039;t technically her employer. For that reason, you don&#039;t have the right to dictate her pricing or tell her how to do her work. I&#039;d recommend reading the articles I&#039;m linking below and deciding whether employing her might lead to a better arrangement. If you have any questions, you can book a consulting appointment with me here, but the posts I&#039;m linking should hopefully make everything clear.
&lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2017/01/know-your-rights-in-salon-employee.html&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;Know Your Rights&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/08/independent-contractor-general-contractor-subcontractor-and-self-employed-defined-for-the-beauty-industry.html&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;Independent Contractor Defined&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/10/how-to-fire-a-salon-employee.html#comment-60815">Sterling</a>.</p>
<p>Well, the reason she&#8217;s likely upset is that she&#8217;s legally self-employed, which means you aren&#8217;t technically her employer. For that reason, you don&#8217;t have the right to dictate her pricing or tell her how to do her work. I&#8217;d recommend reading the articles I&#8217;m linking below and deciding whether employing her might lead to a better arrangement. If you have any questions, you can book a consulting appointment with me here, but the posts I&#8217;m linking should hopefully make everything clear.<br />
<a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2017/01/know-your-rights-in-salon-employee.html" rel="ugc">Know Your Rights</a><br />
<a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/08/independent-contractor-general-contractor-subcontractor-and-self-employed-defined-for-the-beauty-industry.html" rel="ugc">Independent Contractor Defined</a></p>
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		By: Sterling		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sterling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jun 2024 20:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am a salon owner  and my business model is my stylists are sub contractors .
I have a base price list for the entire salon and one stylist keeps under charging and undermining my decisions on running my business . She is even speaking ill of me to clients and other stylist .
I really want to terminate her but I am concerned about backlash. What can I do ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a salon owner  and my business model is my stylists are sub contractors .<br />
I have a base price list for the entire salon and one stylist keeps under charging and undermining my decisions on running my business . She is even speaking ill of me to clients and other stylist .<br />
I really want to terminate her but I am concerned about backlash. What can I do ?</p>
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		By: Tina Alberino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Alberino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2019 18:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/10/how-to-fire-a-salon-employee.html#comment-31975&quot;&gt;Michelle Phoenix&lt;/a&gt;.

Okay, so first of all, I miss you. While I don&#039;t miss Facebook at all, you&#039;re one of five people whose faces I miss seeing every day. &lt;3

Secondly, you did the right thing. The last thing any employer wants to deal with is a disgruntled ex-employee pursuing them for trying to prevent them from getting hired.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/10/how-to-fire-a-salon-employee.html#comment-31975">Michelle Phoenix</a>.</p>
<p>Okay, so first of all, I miss you. While I don&#8217;t miss Facebook at all, you&#8217;re one of five people whose faces I miss seeing every day. &lt;3</p>
<p>Secondly, you did the right thing. The last thing any employer wants to deal with is a disgruntled ex-employee pursuing them for trying to prevent them from getting hired.</p>
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		By: Michelle Phoenix		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle Phoenix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2019 14:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I once had a tech who stole money from me. I told her she could work off her debt or be fired and I&#039;d report her to the police.  She chose to work off her debt, which was fine because the clients had no idea, and enjoyed having services with her, however, she also tried to use me as a reference when applying to other salons, which I thought was hilarious.

I never told any of her reference checkers why she was no longer employed with me, only the dates she worked for me, and I think my lack of detail was enough to let them know that she might not be the best person for the job.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once had a tech who stole money from me. I told her she could work off her debt or be fired and I&#8217;d report her to the police.  She chose to work off her debt, which was fine because the clients had no idea, and enjoyed having services with her, however, she also tried to use me as a reference when applying to other salons, which I thought was hilarious.</p>
<p>I never told any of her reference checkers why she was no longer employed with me, only the dates she worked for me, and I think my lack of detail was enough to let them know that she might not be the best person for the job.</p>
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		By: Tina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 15:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/10/how-to-fire-a-salon-employee.html#comment-22121&quot;&gt;Scott&lt;/a&gt;.

The problem with &quot;honest&quot; references is that you are restricted to saying only what you can verify, otherwise you&#039;re committing defamation and can be sued. So while you can be honest, it doesn&#039;t benefit anyone to attempt to keep an ex-employee from being able to find work. If you feel it&#039;s appropriate, highlight the ex-employee&#039;s positive qualities in the letter and save the negative stuff for the phone call you get from the next person to interview them. When you get that call, stick to those things you can prove with tangible evidence. If she&#039;s chronically late, you can verify that with records. If she&#039;s slow on service times, you can verify that as well. If she received a lot of negative reviews from clients, they&#039;re available for anyone to see online. If she had to be repeatedly disciplined for handbook violations, you should have evidence from your progressive disciplinary records. 

Anything negative aside from things that can be proven should be omitted.

That said, nothing in your letter of recommendation should put your reputation at risk, so long as everything contained therein is also true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/10/how-to-fire-a-salon-employee.html#comment-22121">Scott</a>.</p>
<p>The problem with &#8220;honest&#8221; references is that you are restricted to saying only what you can verify, otherwise you&#8217;re committing defamation and can be sued. So while you can be honest, it doesn&#8217;t benefit anyone to attempt to keep an ex-employee from being able to find work. If you feel it&#8217;s appropriate, highlight the ex-employee&#8217;s positive qualities in the letter and save the negative stuff for the phone call you get from the next person to interview them. When you get that call, stick to those things you can prove with tangible evidence. If she&#8217;s chronically late, you can verify that with records. If she&#8217;s slow on service times, you can verify that as well. If she received a lot of negative reviews from clients, they&#8217;re available for anyone to see online. If she had to be repeatedly disciplined for handbook violations, you should have evidence from your progressive disciplinary records. </p>
<p>Anything negative aside from things that can be proven should be omitted.</p>
<p>That said, nothing in your letter of recommendation should put your reputation at risk, so long as everything contained therein is also true.</p>
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		By: Scott		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2019 04:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great article. But I don&#039;t know about the point about writing a letter of recommendation for a under performing employee. That sounds like a total cop-out for the person doing the firing.  I wouldn&#039;t risk my personal reputation to say how great a crappy employee is.  If I was asked for a reference I&#039;d be straight up honest with the good and the bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. But I don&#8217;t know about the point about writing a letter of recommendation for a under performing employee. That sounds like a total cop-out for the person doing the firing.  I wouldn&#8217;t risk my personal reputation to say how great a crappy employee is.  If I was asked for a reference I&#8217;d be straight up honest with the good and the bad.</p>
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		By: Tina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2018 21:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/10/how-to-fire-a-salon-employee.html#comment-11554&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

It depends on your lease terms. Since you lack one, you&#039;ll have to check to see if the state of Iowa has any commercial landlord/tenant laws. Most states do not. The majority of the time, courts rely on contractual agreements to settle disputes in these instances.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/10/how-to-fire-a-salon-employee.html#comment-11554">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>It depends on your lease terms. Since you lack one, you&#8217;ll have to check to see if the state of Iowa has any commercial landlord/tenant laws. Most states do not. The majority of the time, courts rely on contractual agreements to settle disputes in these instances.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 07:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I work in a beauty business under a self contractor situation but there was never any contracts signed when I started working there almost 3 years ago. Can the owner terminate me and I just have to leave or do they have to give me 30 days notice and evict me. I rent a suite by a weekly rate in the state of Iowa.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I work in a beauty business under a self contractor situation but there was never any contracts signed when I started working there almost 3 years ago. Can the owner terminate me and I just have to leave or do they have to give me 30 days notice and evict me. I rent a suite by a weekly rate in the state of Iowa.</p>
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		By: Tina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2017 10:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/10/how-to-fire-a-salon-employee.html#comment-8441&quot;&gt;bobo&lt;/a&gt;.

It is a service pricing guide, not a payroll guide, so there are boxes to account for and estimate annual state and federal payroll taxes that are then automatically accounted for in the pricing, but because employees each claim different exemptions and have different tax rates, there&#039;s no way to calculate those broad variations in this spreadsheet. (For that, you&#039;ll need a payroll accountant. I&#039;m not willing to take on that liability and since it so far exceeds the scope of the toolkit, it&#039;s not a functionality I&#039;ll be adding.) I also only briefly touch on taxes, since this kit is meant to be internationally compatible. For specific tax guidance, I advise everyone to speak with tax professionals who know the laws and regulations in their state/city/country, because the variations between each are insanely different and change often.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2016/10/how-to-fire-a-salon-employee.html#comment-8441">bobo</a>.</p>
<p>It is a service pricing guide, not a payroll guide, so there are boxes to account for and estimate annual state and federal payroll taxes that are then automatically accounted for in the pricing, but because employees each claim different exemptions and have different tax rates, there&#8217;s no way to calculate those broad variations in this spreadsheet. (For that, you&#8217;ll need a payroll accountant. I&#8217;m not willing to take on that liability and since it so far exceeds the scope of the toolkit, it&#8217;s not a functionality I&#8217;ll be adding.) I also only briefly touch on taxes, since this kit is meant to be internationally compatible. For specific tax guidance, I advise everyone to speak with tax professionals who know the laws and regulations in their state/city/country, because the variations between each are insanely different and change often.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bobo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is there something about FUTA and SUTA taxes mentioned in the Service Pricing ToolKit?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there something about FUTA and SUTA taxes mentioned in the Service Pricing ToolKit?</p>
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