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		By: Tina Alberino		</title>
		<link>https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2015/08/why-favors-dont-pay-and-clients-cant-be-friends.html#comment-33890</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Alberino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2019 13:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2015/08/why-favors-dont-pay-and-clients-cant-be-friends.html#comment-33884&quot;&gt;B Martin&lt;/a&gt;.

I highly doubt your stylist arbitrarily decided to make you wait 6 weeks. (It&#039;s possible, but extremely unlikely.) It sounds as if she&#039;s extremely booked during her work hours and simply didn&#039;t have the availability to schedule you before then. Then, she fell ill. 

It also sounds like you had an expectation to be given earlier accommodation when you were sick and then again when she was sick, which wasn&#039;t possible. (I&#039;m not sure if this was the case or not, but our jobs are physically strenuous and a very busy professional who serves clients every working hour is not going to be staying late or coming in on weekends. Doing so is extremely inadvisable, unless you want chronic back, neck, shoulder, and knee problems before your 40th birthday.)

Stylists who are in extremely high demand, unfortunately, have very little schedule flexibility and have to be defensive of their off-time. You should have been scheduled with another available professional during her illness, but if she&#039;s working solo (or if you refuse to be placed with another stylist), that&#039;s not possible. It&#039;s important for clients of fully booked professionals to understand that any missed appointments are unlikely to be made up by that specific professional. &quot;Fitting in&quot; a client who missed their appointment when you&#039;re booked to or beyond capacity isn&#039;t possible since every working hour is booked. Trying to serve every client you missed during an illness also isn&#039;t possible because doing so would mean working 12+ hour shifts for weeks to make up for the absence.

It&#039;s also important for clients of self-employed professionals to understand that they have no support or backup, so when you (or they) are sick, they lose money that they have no way of recouping, and they have nobody to help them untangle the trainwreck the schedule becomes while they&#039;re gone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2015/08/why-favors-dont-pay-and-clients-cant-be-friends.html#comment-33884">B Martin</a>.</p>
<p>I highly doubt your stylist arbitrarily decided to make you wait 6 weeks. (It&#8217;s possible, but extremely unlikely.) It sounds as if she&#8217;s extremely booked during her work hours and simply didn&#8217;t have the availability to schedule you before then. Then, she fell ill. </p>
<p>It also sounds like you had an expectation to be given earlier accommodation when you were sick and then again when she was sick, which wasn&#8217;t possible. (I&#8217;m not sure if this was the case or not, but our jobs are physically strenuous and a very busy professional who serves clients every working hour is not going to be staying late or coming in on weekends. Doing so is extremely inadvisable, unless you want chronic back, neck, shoulder, and knee problems before your 40th birthday.)</p>
<p>Stylists who are in extremely high demand, unfortunately, have very little schedule flexibility and have to be defensive of their off-time. You should have been scheduled with another available professional during her illness, but if she&#8217;s working solo (or if you refuse to be placed with another stylist), that&#8217;s not possible. It&#8217;s important for clients of fully booked professionals to understand that any missed appointments are unlikely to be made up by that specific professional. &#8220;Fitting in&#8221; a client who missed their appointment when you&#8217;re booked to or beyond capacity isn&#8217;t possible since every working hour is booked. Trying to serve every client you missed during an illness also isn&#8217;t possible because doing so would mean working 12+ hour shifts for weeks to make up for the absence.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also important for clients of self-employed professionals to understand that they have no support or backup, so when you (or they) are sick, they lose money that they have no way of recouping, and they have nobody to help them untangle the trainwreck the schedule becomes while they&#8217;re gone.</p>
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		By: B Martin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2019 22:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about hairdressers who don&#039;t care about their clients? I thought I had a good relationship with my hairdresser. I was almost never late, called when I was 5 minutes late, replied to all the confirmation texts about upcoming appointments, tipped well, gave her a bonus for Christmas and never asked for more time or any of the favors listed in the article. But when I was sick and had to cancel the day before my appointment she said I would simply have to wait 6 weeks until my next scheduled appt. This was inconvenient, since the time between my appointments had already run long, but I said nothing. When the day of my appointment  finally came, she cancelled with only a couple of hours notice because SHE was sick. I commented that this was inconvenient, but accepted a reschedule date. She promptly dumped me as a client because I was not &#039;understanding&#039; of her illness. What about HER understanding of MY illness? Was she willing to try to reschedule me? Nope. I simply had to wait 6 weeks, no other options offered. She is a SERVICE PROVIDER. Yet she acted like she was doing me the ultimate favor by accepting me as a client. No thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about hairdressers who don&#8217;t care about their clients? I thought I had a good relationship with my hairdresser. I was almost never late, called when I was 5 minutes late, replied to all the confirmation texts about upcoming appointments, tipped well, gave her a bonus for Christmas and never asked for more time or any of the favors listed in the article. But when I was sick and had to cancel the day before my appointment she said I would simply have to wait 6 weeks until my next scheduled appt. This was inconvenient, since the time between my appointments had already run long, but I said nothing. When the day of my appointment  finally came, she cancelled with only a couple of hours notice because SHE was sick. I commented that this was inconvenient, but accepted a reschedule date. She promptly dumped me as a client because I was not &#8216;understanding&#8217; of her illness. What about HER understanding of MY illness? Was she willing to try to reschedule me? Nope. I simply had to wait 6 weeks, no other options offered. She is a SERVICE PROVIDER. Yet she acted like she was doing me the ultimate favor by accepting me as a client. No thanks.</p>
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		By: Tina Alberino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Alberino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2019 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2015/08/why-favors-dont-pay-and-clients-cant-be-friends.html#comment-33377&quot;&gt;Bonnie lizarraga&lt;/a&gt;.

I wouldn&#039;t call it &quot;low self-esteem.&quot; People in our industry tend to be givers. We are drawn to service because we love to serve others, and sometimes, asserting ourselves can feel counter to that. It isn&#039;t, but that doesn&#039;t change the fact that it can feel that way, lol.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2015/08/why-favors-dont-pay-and-clients-cant-be-friends.html#comment-33377">Bonnie lizarraga</a>.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t call it &#8220;low self-esteem.&#8221; People in our industry tend to be givers. We are drawn to service because we love to serve others, and sometimes, asserting ourselves can feel counter to that. It isn&#8217;t, but that doesn&#8217;t change the fact that it can feel that way, lol.</p>
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		By: Bonnie lizarraga		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonnie lizarraga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2019 05:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2015/08/why-favors-dont-pay-and-clients-cant-be-friends.html#comment-27066&quot;&gt;Tina Alberino&lt;/a&gt;.

Good stuffbeen in business 30 years people say oh no I only have a hundred dollars when it’s 125.00 I say it’s okay but then I realize these people have quite a bit of money then I or if I have a price raise they complain I have one lady who pre writes checks for the privrvitvwas 7 years ago I don’t know what to do it’s makes me feel cheated but also mad st myself for not being able to speak up what’s wrong with me do I have low self esteem]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2015/08/why-favors-dont-pay-and-clients-cant-be-friends.html#comment-27066">Tina Alberino</a>.</p>
<p>Good stuffbeen in business 30 years people say oh no I only have a hundred dollars when it’s 125.00 I say it’s okay but then I realize these people have quite a bit of money then I or if I have a price raise they complain I have one lady who pre writes checks for the privrvitvwas 7 years ago I don’t know what to do it’s makes me feel cheated but also mad st myself for not being able to speak up what’s wrong with me do I have low self esteem</p>
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		By: Tina Alberino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Alberino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Sep 2019 18:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2015/08/why-favors-dont-pay-and-clients-cant-be-friends.html#comment-31986&quot;&gt;Bea&lt;/a&gt;.

Whether or not it will work depends on how you approach it. Some choose to gradually distance themselves, introducing boundaries in subtle ways (for instance, redirecting the conversation when it strays off-course). Others are more intentional. They establish the boundaries all at once and inform the clients. (Most professionals I&#039;ve talked to say that beginning that conversation with an apology for getting too personal and acknowledging that things will have to change from that point forward works best.) No matter how you do it, make sure they understand that it&#039;s not their fault, but that the shift isn&#039;t negotiable. You can stay cordial and friendly while also maintaining a professional distance. There&#039;s no reason for those relationships to suffer, but any client who insists on treating you like their therapist, sounding board, BFF, or gossip source needs to understand that their expectations of you are unreasonable. You aren&#039;t being paid to be any of those things for them. If you aren&#039;t comfortable serving in that capacity or want to reclaim your privacy, they need to respect that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2015/08/why-favors-dont-pay-and-clients-cant-be-friends.html#comment-31986">Bea</a>.</p>
<p>Whether or not it will work depends on how you approach it. Some choose to gradually distance themselves, introducing boundaries in subtle ways (for instance, redirecting the conversation when it strays off-course). Others are more intentional. They establish the boundaries all at once and inform the clients. (Most professionals I&#8217;ve talked to say that beginning that conversation with an apology for getting too personal and acknowledging that things will have to change from that point forward works best.) No matter how you do it, make sure they understand that it&#8217;s not their fault, but that the shift isn&#8217;t negotiable. You can stay cordial and friendly while also maintaining a professional distance. There&#8217;s no reason for those relationships to suffer, but any client who insists on treating you like their therapist, sounding board, BFF, or gossip source needs to understand that their expectations of you are unreasonable. You aren&#8217;t being paid to be any of those things for them. If you aren&#8217;t comfortable serving in that capacity or want to reclaim your privacy, they need to respect that.</p>
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		By: Bea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2019 19:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This could be the reason some customers who brag about the hair compliments they get all the time but never refer??? YIKES! 
For example: Jane loves our sessions as is but possibly fears her coworkers, neighbors, in-laws, etc. will build the same &quot;close&quot; relationship I&#039;ve established with her. I have many of Jane&#039;s secrets. ;) 
Will switching my behavior work with existing customers?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be the reason some customers who brag about the hair compliments they get all the time but never refer??? YIKES!<br />
For example: Jane loves our sessions as is but possibly fears her coworkers, neighbors, in-laws, etc. will build the same &#8220;close&#8221; relationship I&#8217;ve established with her. I have many of Jane&#8217;s secrets. 😉<br />
Will switching my behavior work with existing customers?</p>
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		By: Tina Alberino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina Alberino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2019 12:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2015/08/why-favors-dont-pay-and-clients-cant-be-friends.html#comment-30018&quot;&gt;Selena Shepherd&lt;/a&gt;.

Stop the discounts and make them choose. Either they support you and your business or they&#039;re only interested in taking advantage of you. If it&#039;s the latter, you know where they stand and shouldn&#039;t feel guilty for cutting them loose. I highly suspect that most of them will stick with you, though, especially if they didn&#039;t ask for the discounts and special treatment to begin with. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2015/08/why-favors-dont-pay-and-clients-cant-be-friends.html#comment-30018">Selena Shepherd</a>.</p>
<p>Stop the discounts and make them choose. Either they support you and your business or they&#8217;re only interested in taking advantage of you. If it&#8217;s the latter, you know where they stand and shouldn&#8217;t feel guilty for cutting them loose. I highly suspect that most of them will stick with you, though, especially if they didn&#8217;t ask for the discounts and special treatment to begin with. 🙂</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Selena Shepherd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2019 05:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for the article and your candor!! I have been in the industry for many years and have a very full clientele! I REALLY struggle with charging for every service I provide. I often “throw in” extras here and there, that I know add up! I also do not charge ANY of my immediate family members! I have so much anxiety over implementing change that will involve price increases as well as charging my family members. I have no one to blame but myself!! I give an obscene amount of discounts. With that being said, I know I really need to because I’m feeling it financially as well as burnout!! Can you advise?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the article and your candor!! I have been in the industry for many years and have a very full clientele! I REALLY struggle with charging for every service I provide. I often “throw in” extras here and there, that I know add up! I also do not charge ANY of my immediate family members! I have so much anxiety over implementing change that will involve price increases as well as charging my family members. I have no one to blame but myself!! I give an obscene amount of discounts. With that being said, I know I really need to because I’m feeling it financially as well as burnout!! Can you advise?</p>
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		By: Jenine Meza		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenine Meza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2019 20:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I completely agree with this article and the ones who are friends or family are the ones who you go an extra mile for and or don&#039;t tip and then complain and are the ones who act the least happy even though they like it they always want more. Yeah, I had a friend say can you add more brown roots when literally she was just being extra. Me asking her for 25 dollars for my time she flipped out and brought up friendship like yes you are a friend but you are also my client and this is my business. Mind you, I already give her a discount on the prices and include a hair cut and conditioner as well as toner which I don&#039;t up sale. Literally I stood up for myself and I have learned to be firm and let them know this is my business even though I do it part time its still another job. I could go on and on but Thanks for the article its really 100% true.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with this article and the ones who are friends or family are the ones who you go an extra mile for and or don&#8217;t tip and then complain and are the ones who act the least happy even though they like it they always want more. Yeah, I had a friend say can you add more brown roots when literally she was just being extra. Me asking her for 25 dollars for my time she flipped out and brought up friendship like yes you are a friend but you are also my client and this is my business. Mind you, I already give her a discount on the prices and include a hair cut and conditioner as well as toner which I don&#8217;t up sale. Literally I stood up for myself and I have learned to be firm and let them know this is my business even though I do it part time its still another job. I could go on and on but Thanks for the article its really 100% true.</p>
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		By: Heather		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 10:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Tina, 
Thanks for your article about maintaining a professional relationship with clients. I&#039;m an esthetician, and I&#039;ve been operating a salon from my home for 11 years. I&#039;ve learned that being friendly with clients is fundamental to the success of my business but, generally speaking, treating clients as friends is a mistake. Not only do you find that people will take advantage of you, but it also hurts when your &quot;friend&quot; suddenly stops seeking your services. In 99% of cases you did nothing wrong: It&#039;s simply that your client&#039;s priorities changed, and they&#039;re no longer budgeting for the service you provide. We mustn&#039;t forget that our clients are paying to spend time with us and, as such, we are no different (to most of them) than a friendly shop assistant or bank teller. Like you, I&#039;ve seen estheticians, hairdressers and other service providers go on ad nauseum about themselves, and I agree it&#039;s inappropriate. It&#039;s also inappropriate to allow a client to confide too much. My experience is that if I allow a client to tell me their secrets about their spouse, their child, or something foolish they did, for example, I probably won&#039;t see them again. I can only guess that in the cold light of the next day they&#039;re embarrassed about what they revealed; consequently, they don&#039;t want to face me again. I would tell a newbie service provider to remind herself that she isn&#039;t a counsellor; so, when a client starts treating her like one she ought to tactfully steer the conversation in a new direction. I&#039;ll end by admitting to having made friends through my salon, including two I particularly cherish and see socially. That said, I agree with your article, because in the early years of my salon I made many &quot;friends&quot; who turned out not to be friends at all. It hurt in a variety of ways, both personally and professionally. My policy now is always to be friendly but not to make friends. It works well for everyone. My clients receive the quality care for which they&#039;re paying, and I am treated with respect and courtesy. Thanks, again, for your article, Tina. And for your website! It&#039;s really professional and engaging. You&#039;re doing a stellar job of bringing together a strong community. All the best!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tina,<br />
Thanks for your article about maintaining a professional relationship with clients. I&#8217;m an esthetician, and I&#8217;ve been operating a salon from my home for 11 years. I&#8217;ve learned that being friendly with clients is fundamental to the success of my business but, generally speaking, treating clients as friends is a mistake. Not only do you find that people will take advantage of you, but it also hurts when your &#8220;friend&#8221; suddenly stops seeking your services. In 99% of cases you did nothing wrong: It&#8217;s simply that your client&#8217;s priorities changed, and they&#8217;re no longer budgeting for the service you provide. We mustn&#8217;t forget that our clients are paying to spend time with us and, as such, we are no different (to most of them) than a friendly shop assistant or bank teller. Like you, I&#8217;ve seen estheticians, hairdressers and other service providers go on ad nauseum about themselves, and I agree it&#8217;s inappropriate. It&#8217;s also inappropriate to allow a client to confide too much. My experience is that if I allow a client to tell me their secrets about their spouse, their child, or something foolish they did, for example, I probably won&#8217;t see them again. I can only guess that in the cold light of the next day they&#8217;re embarrassed about what they revealed; consequently, they don&#8217;t want to face me again. I would tell a newbie service provider to remind herself that she isn&#8217;t a counsellor; so, when a client starts treating her like one she ought to tactfully steer the conversation in a new direction. I&#8217;ll end by admitting to having made friends through my salon, including two I particularly cherish and see socially. That said, I agree with your article, because in the early years of my salon I made many &#8220;friends&#8221; who turned out not to be friends at all. It hurt in a variety of ways, both personally and professionally. My policy now is always to be friendly but not to make friends. It works well for everyone. My clients receive the quality care for which they&#8217;re paying, and I am treated with respect and courtesy. Thanks, again, for your article, Tina. And for your website! It&#8217;s really professional and engaging. You&#8217;re doing a stellar job of bringing together a strong community. All the best!</p>
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