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		By: Tina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2017 18:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-9370&quot;&gt;Stephanie&lt;/a&gt;.

To me, the NCA doesn&#039;t sound enforceable as you were in an extremely low-level position. You&#039;re right to consider the arrangement dangerous--listen to your gut on this one. Unkept promises in particular are a huge red flag.

Should the company enforce the NCA, the judge would enforce it unless you could provide a compelling reason why it shouldn&#039;t be enforceable (and I consider the broad scope and the crazy wide radius--especially in a metropolitan area--enough to shred it and publicly shame the owner), but it depends on the judge. Arrange for a consult with an attorney before you violate it. The &quot;location providing similar services or goods&quot; thing is WAY too broad and your job role was so minimal that the NCA really didn&#039;t seem appropriate in the least. You may be able to challenge it before breaching it and have it struck down in advance, that way you don&#039;t ever have to worry about the salon attempting to enforce it. (In those instances, you basically bring the agreement to a judge and present your argument for why you think it&#039;s not valid and the judge either agrees or disagrees with you.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-9370">Stephanie</a>.</p>
<p>To me, the NCA doesn&#8217;t sound enforceable as you were in an extremely low-level position. You&#8217;re right to consider the arrangement dangerous&#8211;listen to your gut on this one. Unkept promises in particular are a huge red flag.</p>
<p>Should the company enforce the NCA, the judge would enforce it unless you could provide a compelling reason why it shouldn&#8217;t be enforceable (and I consider the broad scope and the crazy wide radius&#8211;especially in a metropolitan area&#8211;enough to shred it and publicly shame the owner), but it depends on the judge. Arrange for a consult with an attorney before you violate it. The &#8220;location providing similar services or goods&#8221; thing is WAY too broad and your job role was so minimal that the NCA really didn&#8217;t seem appropriate in the least. You may be able to challenge it before breaching it and have it struck down in advance, that way you don&#8217;t ever have to worry about the salon attempting to enforce it. (In those instances, you basically bring the agreement to a judge and present your argument for why you think it&#8217;s not valid and the judge either agrees or disagrees with you.)</p>
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		By: Stephanie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2017 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just looking for an opinion here, I realize that the internet doesn&#039;t count as legal counsel, haha! I&#039;ve been employed by a salon in Chicago for one month (assisting/apprenticing while waiting for my Cos license to transfer from another state - 2 yrs of prior experience) and I did sign a NCA at the time I was hired (can&#039;t work for 18 months at a &quot;location providing similar services or goods&quot; within a 10 mi. radius). I have no clientele, as I am not yet licensed in Illinois and moved alone from another state, but I am having second thoughts about the company for various reasons. The compensation is barely livable for assistants and stylists (hourly wage, no commission), not very good benefits, promises made to me at time of hire that have not been kept, uncomfortable work environment, etc. Not really a huge deal but could be in the future type of things. My question is, do you think the company would have reason to &quot;enforce&quot; the NCA since I wouldn&#039;t be taking any clients with me? Or would a judge even enforce the NCA since I&#039;m not really a liability to the company? Any advice is welcome and appreciated!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just looking for an opinion here, I realize that the internet doesn&#8217;t count as legal counsel, haha! I&#8217;ve been employed by a salon in Chicago for one month (assisting/apprenticing while waiting for my Cos license to transfer from another state &#8211; 2 yrs of prior experience) and I did sign a NCA at the time I was hired (can&#8217;t work for 18 months at a &#8220;location providing similar services or goods&#8221; within a 10 mi. radius). I have no clientele, as I am not yet licensed in Illinois and moved alone from another state, but I am having second thoughts about the company for various reasons. The compensation is barely livable for assistants and stylists (hourly wage, no commission), not very good benefits, promises made to me at time of hire that have not been kept, uncomfortable work environment, etc. Not really a huge deal but could be in the future type of things. My question is, do you think the company would have reason to &#8220;enforce&#8221; the NCA since I wouldn&#8217;t be taking any clients with me? Or would a judge even enforce the NCA since I&#8217;m not really a liability to the company? Any advice is welcome and appreciated!</p>
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		By: Tina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-9250&quot;&gt;Allie&lt;/a&gt;.

That non-compete doesn&#039;t sound enforceable, but even then, never sign contracts that are unreasonably restrictive. This contract is one you know you&#039;re unlikely able to comply with in the event of a separation, so don&#039;t sign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-9250">Allie</a>.</p>
<p>That non-compete doesn&#8217;t sound enforceable, but even then, never sign contracts that are unreasonably restrictive. This contract is one you know you&#8217;re unlikely able to comply with in the event of a separation, so don&#8217;t sign.</p>
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		By: Allie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2017 01:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-1536&quot;&gt;Christi&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m currently going through this, it was amazing lash studio correct? I feel iffy about it because 50 miles for 2 years is insanely ridiculous, I&#039;d have to move 50.freaking miles away just to make some money for my family.. I&#039;m not sure what to do]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-1536">Christi</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently going through this, it was amazing lash studio correct? I feel iffy about it because 50 miles for 2 years is insanely ridiculous, I&#8217;d have to move 50.freaking miles away just to make some money for my family.. I&#8217;m not sure what to do</p>
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		By: Tina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2017 01:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-9142&quot;&gt;Marsha&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks so much Marsha! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-9142">Marsha</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks so much Marsha! 🙂</p>
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		By: Marsha		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marsha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2017 23:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-9137&quot;&gt;Tina&lt;/a&gt;.

I understand, and I appreciate you taking your time to address my question. I will be continuing to read all of your wonderful information. I&#039;ve been in the business for 17 years and a lot of the things of read on here are a real eye opener. I would like to be as well informed and professional as you. You are taking this business and holding to the higher standards that only makes it better for everyone. Have a great weekend!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-9137">Tina</a>.</p>
<p>I understand, and I appreciate you taking your time to address my question. I will be continuing to read all of your wonderful information. I&#8217;ve been in the business for 17 years and a lot of the things of read on here are a real eye opener. I would like to be as well informed and professional as you. You are taking this business and holding to the higher standards that only makes it better for everyone. Have a great weekend!</p>
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		By: Tina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2017 13:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-9126&quot;&gt;Marsha&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, if you were employed properly, there&#039;s a good likelihood the employer has ownership of incidental products of your labor, including the right to any intellectual property produced during the course of your employment. This tends to come up in the technology industry pretty often, when software developers create apps of their own while being employed by a software company. Generally, their contracts protect intellectual properties developed on their own time, on their own equipment, but should it be determined that the employee used company time or resources to produce the intellectual property, the company may have a claim to it. In your case, you were hired to serve clients, and part of that service includes color formulation. Although the employer didn&#039;t help you or direct you, the task was incidental to job performance, so making a claim to the formulas would be difficult at best. You&#039;ll get a better answer from an attorney, though. :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-9126">Marsha</a>.</p>
<p>Well, if you were employed properly, there&#8217;s a good likelihood the employer has ownership of incidental products of your labor, including the right to any intellectual property produced during the course of your employment. This tends to come up in the technology industry pretty often, when software developers create apps of their own while being employed by a software company. Generally, their contracts protect intellectual properties developed on their own time, on their own equipment, but should it be determined that the employee used company time or resources to produce the intellectual property, the company may have a claim to it. In your case, you were hired to serve clients, and part of that service includes color formulation. Although the employer didn&#8217;t help you or direct you, the task was incidental to job performance, so making a claim to the formulas would be difficult at best. You&#8217;ll get a better answer from an attorney, though. 🙁</p>
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		By: Marsha		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marsha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2017 05:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am condsidering leaving the salon I&#039;ve been with for 10 years. Mainly because the owner violates many of the issues you have put forth on here. By the way, thank you for giving all of us stylists, no matter how we choose to be employed, a voice.  I believe in ethics and costumer service before anything else, that&#039;s why I love what I do. I am here because I&#039;m researching how best to leave without hurting my clients, my self, or my employer. During my ten years, I have had no benefits, I.e. Insurance, sick time, vacation, or overtime.  I&#039;m on commission, with product charges being withdrawn from each interaction.  The only paper I have signed was 7to 8 years ago envolving my formula book. Now I signed this under duress, meaning, if not my job was forfeit. The paper stating that I may not bring my formulas with me. Do you know within how this lies pertaining to intellectual property?   I created each and everyone of my formulas, with no help from owner or outside source. It is my own art. But I&#039;m unsure of how I stand with this. I does make me upset that I&#039;ve taken my own personal artisan and knowledge to create these formulas and they may not belong to me. Is this an issue with anyone else? I appreciate any insights you may have, thank you...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am condsidering leaving the salon I&#8217;ve been with for 10 years. Mainly because the owner violates many of the issues you have put forth on here. By the way, thank you for giving all of us stylists, no matter how we choose to be employed, a voice.  I believe in ethics and costumer service before anything else, that&#8217;s why I love what I do. I am here because I&#8217;m researching how best to leave without hurting my clients, my self, or my employer. During my ten years, I have had no benefits, I.e. Insurance, sick time, vacation, or overtime.  I&#8217;m on commission, with product charges being withdrawn from each interaction.  The only paper I have signed was 7to 8 years ago envolving my formula book. Now I signed this under duress, meaning, if not my job was forfeit. The paper stating that I may not bring my formulas with me. Do you know within how this lies pertaining to intellectual property?   I created each and everyone of my formulas, with no help from owner or outside source. It is my own art. But I&#8217;m unsure of how I stand with this. I does make me upset that I&#8217;ve taken my own personal artisan and knowledge to create these formulas and they may not belong to me. Is this an issue with anyone else? I appreciate any insights you may have, thank you&#8230;</p>
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		By: Tina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2017 12:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-8907&quot;&gt;Catherine&lt;/a&gt;.

She can &quot;say&quot; whatever she wants. Until she &quot;does&quot; something, I wouldn&#039;t take anything she says seriously. For legal help, you will need to contact an attorney. Contract law is extremely complex and is generally decided on a case-by-case basis. I highly recommend you find an attorney and have them advise you. However, I personally wouldn&#039;t pay her anything or give her the time of day until she had me served with legal documentation. That entire situation is sketchy (25 miles is insane and you were a renter, which is even more ridiculous). In the future, don&#039;t sign anything you don&#039;t agree with, sign every page of each document you do sign (so the landlord doesn&#039;t edit the text and slip in clauses later), and keep copies of everything you do sign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thisuglybeautybusiness.com/2012/12/employment-contracts-non-compete-agreements.html#comment-8907">Catherine</a>.</p>
<p>She can &#8220;say&#8221; whatever she wants. Until she &#8220;does&#8221; something, I wouldn&#8217;t take anything she says seriously. For legal help, you will need to contact an attorney. Contract law is extremely complex and is generally decided on a case-by-case basis. I highly recommend you find an attorney and have them advise you. However, I personally wouldn&#8217;t pay her anything or give her the time of day until she had me served with legal documentation. That entire situation is sketchy (25 miles is insane and you were a renter, which is even more ridiculous). In the future, don&#8217;t sign anything you don&#8217;t agree with, sign every page of each document you do sign (so the landlord doesn&#8217;t edit the text and slip in clauses later), and keep copies of everything you do sign.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was a booth renter in a barbershop in NC. She was sabotaging my clientele and hours, so I quit as soon as I found another job in a salon. I had &quot;agreed&quot; to a non-compete clause stating that I wouldn&#039;t work in another barber shop in a 25 mile radius for one year after I started (which she later said would be one year after I started paying boothrent) and I never got a copy of the contract. In order to make my bills, I did have to start work at another barber shop. My former boss found out and is telling me I owe her booth rent from when I quit to whenever the contract says, if it even says anything about it. From what I read, the non-compete clause didn&#039;t apply to me. If this is true, is there a link that can help me legally?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a booth renter in a barbershop in NC. She was sabotaging my clientele and hours, so I quit as soon as I found another job in a salon. I had &#8220;agreed&#8221; to a non-compete clause stating that I wouldn&#8217;t work in another barber shop in a 25 mile radius for one year after I started (which she later said would be one year after I started paying boothrent) and I never got a copy of the contract. In order to make my bills, I did have to start work at another barber shop. My former boss found out and is telling me I owe her booth rent from when I quit to whenever the contract says, if it even says anything about it. From what I read, the non-compete clause didn&#8217;t apply to me. If this is true, is there a link that can help me legally?</p>
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